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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by Granadico on 12/7/2013, 7:53 pm

    Nintendo has the worst marketing ;~;



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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by BlitznBurst on 12/7/2013, 7:59 pm

    Why? Because not every announcement they make is a groundbreaking announcement that is sure to shake the gaming industry to its core? Because they made the bizarre decision to keep the big announcements to the big events and have small but interesting announcements at the non-important events? Because they don't have the amazing foresight to predict an accidental leak and whip up a new announcement a few days before the show? Because they're giving information on a new game that you don't particularly care for?

    Why did anybody expect anything more from this in the first place?



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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by Granadico on 12/7/2013, 8:06 pm

    It didn't have to be jaw dropping, but i mean the game is coming out in 2 months. It could have been something we didn't know as much about than something that's about to be out.



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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by BlitznBurst on 12/7/2013, 8:09 pm

    I'm pretty sure that would come under "big" announcements for big events. Which VGX absolutely is not. It's a main character for a game that's about to come out, how is this bad marketting?



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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by Granadico on 12/7/2013, 8:11 pm

    eh you're probably right. GameFAQs just got to me. I've been looking at their WiiU board for a while and they never shut up about possible reveals at VGX so it got to me.
    plus the info was leaked so it wasn't much of a reveal



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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by 5h0ck on 12/7/2013, 8:14 pm

    i was simply disappointed because it was a predictable announcement. it was litterally predicted by many the same day it was announced nintendo would be at vgx. all things considered it could have been revealed in a direct with no need to go to the event.

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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by Granadico on 12/7/2013, 8:21 pm

    I wanna play it. seems cool



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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by 5h0ck on 12/7/2013, 8:36 pm

    that snowdrop graphics engine look good as hell. wonder what the gameplay for the division will be like though,

    EDIT:thief, witcher, and titanfall all look badass



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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by BDB on 12/7/2013, 9:31 pm

    We should probably make a topic to talk about VGX, but the show is just terrible...

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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by 5h0ck on 12/7/2013, 9:35 pm

    terrible show....4 good announcments.......worth it



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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by Granadico on 12/7/2013, 9:40 pm

    well all i cared about was Nintendo's "reveal" so... i didn't even watch it. i heard the hosts are arses though



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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by 『Joshl92』 on 12/7/2013, 9:51 pm

    Niggas are mad cranky. DKC TP doesn't need any more publicity. They have been pushing the shit out of that game. Cranky Kong being playable wasn't the type of announcement that needed to be kept secret. It certainly wasn't meant for that type of crowd either.
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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by Granadico on 12/7/2013, 9:57 pm

    @『Joshl92』 wrote:Niggas are mad cranky. DKC TP doesn't need any more publicity. They have been pushing the shit out of that game.  Cranky Kong being playable wasn't the type of announcement that needed to be kept secret. It certainly wasn't meant for that type of crowd either.
    that's the main problem. Its not really a bad reveal, but was only important for people already getting the game. They should have focused on a game that would expand their userbase. Though according to the rest of the reveals everything was lackluster



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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by 5h0ck on 12/7/2013, 10:07 pm

    well dk will be the first ninty game released next year right? thats probably why their pushing it. of all the things coming their getting the smallest out the way i guess. doesn't change the fact that it was a disapointing reveal.



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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by Rapidfir3Pho3nix on 12/7/2013, 11:24 pm

    @5h0ck wrote:and whats bad about it? the fact that she was scared of ridley? newsflash he killed her family when she was a kid, she killed him in super metroid leaving nothing but a skeleten behind AND the planet blew up afterwards.

    if you kill someone and blow up the planet their lifeless body was on ..... you'd be freaked out too if they came back.

    thats seriously the main complaint i hear about this game, its not justified in the slightest.
    Do you even know just how many times she's had to fight him up until this point?? When she saw him, she should have had more of a reaction like "Oh, here we go again..." not "OMG I'M SCARED AND DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO!!!" By this time she should see him as just a mere nuisance honestly.
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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by 5h0ck on 12/7/2013, 11:57 pm

    she's only seen him 2 times before m lol.
    and the second time the planet exploaded.

    how often does someone come back from that?

    to see someone lived through that gives you the question of "If he survived that how can i win?" that shit makes you hesitate at first.

    but she still charged after the dude, blaster in mouth



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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by Rapidfir3Pho3nix on 12/8/2013, 3:42 am

    2 Times?!
    The first time she fights him is in Metroid/Zero Mission. This is her first fight with Ridley and AFAIK she had no problems fighting him here. Now, I understand that at the time they probably couldn't have portrayed Samus's feeling when fighting him due to the limitations of the console (even though Zero Mission was on GBA), but this does show that Samus had already once defeated Ridley.

    Then he comes back as Meta Ridley and is even stronger than before, having somehow survived their previous encounter. Now, going by your logic this is where Samus should have had some sort of emotional breakdown, but she didn't. And you can't blame console limitations for this one because this battle was on the Gamecube (Metroid Prime). Samus probably wondered how he survived, but she knew that she needed to destroy him so she could continue with her objective. This is what separates Metroid Prime Samus from Other M Samus. Metroid Prime Samus is a Bounty Hunter. She fights the Pirates, adapts to unpredictable situations, saves entire planets/races, and she is on a mission. Samus from Other M was merely a woman in a Power Suit. In Other M Samus seemed like she was a complete novice, especially when she encounters Ridley again. Her characterization in Other M was completely off and it was very disconnected from her character in Metroid Prime, which took place before Other M. Now, if Other M had been stated to take place BEFORE Metroid Prime, I wouldn't think of it nearly as badly, but the fact of the matter is that it took place after Metroid Prime and that completely ruins Samus's image worked so hard to build up. And that's only part of the reason, I thought the game was terrible. Anyways, rant over, Meta Ridley was the 2nd time she fights him and he's blasted by Chozo lazers and falls off the cliff or whatever.

    Then he comes back again, in the beginning of Metroid Prime 3: Corruption. In fact, he completely surprises her and they're battle takes place as they're falling down a giant tube leading to the core of the world (or whatever it lead, I don't remember). So not only is Ridley back, she's falling down this tube at incredible speeds all while Ridley has complete control over the battle. Does she start crying about her dead parents here? Fuck No, she starts fighting him and defeats him and attempts to make sure that was gonna be the last she ever saw of him. But wait, there's more. Later on in the game Meta Ridley comes back AGAIN and he is infused with the power of Phazon. So he is even stronger than before! (So is Samus, so I guess that's a moot point) And because of the effects of the Phazon and Dark Samus's mind trickery, Ridley may not even be in full control of himself at this point, so she's fighting some kind of hyper-possessed phazon Ridley, Omega Ridley if you will. AND she is infected with Phazon herself which is slowly killing her. Does this impede her from smashing Ridley's ass in the slightest? Nope, not at all. She squashes him and sends him running away.

    So that's two more battles. Now, we have the battle against Ridley in Super Metroid. She fights him (this time he doesn't have metal-plated armor or the phazon so he's way weaker) and this time he actually dies.

    So now, a clone of him comes back in Other M, and you're telling me that Samus is supposed to have some kind of breakdown now? What the fuck is that?! Not only is this Ridley, not the original, it's not even nearly as strong as the other times she fought Ridley. AND she's already been fighting him throughout the entire fucking franchise! Why the fuck would she have some kind of emotional breakdown now?? There is absolutely no justification to her reaction to Ridley's clone in Other M. All that was, was the game devs trying to incorporate more "feelings" into Samus and turn her into a generic heroine. And trust me, I'm not trying to just shit on Other M. I actually quite liked the gameplay at times despite it being way different that Metroid Prime, and the cutscenes and sound were both phenomenal...BUT the plot and characterization of Samus was all completely shat on in that game. And that is why I think it's a pretty terrible game. It's not absolute trash, but it was not good by any stretch.
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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by 5h0ck on 12/8/2013, 1:00 pm

    ....the prime games are after m you can't count them in this argument, m is a preview in between super metroid and zero mission

    her first encounter was on metroid one nes, the next game is 2 return of samus for the gameboy but ridley isn't in that game. then comes super metroid snes. thats the 2nd encounter, next is m,  thats where she fights the clone zero mission is after that the prime games are way after m.(though i have no idea when hunters for ds takes place its just kinda out there....good multiplayer though)

    what makes your argument even more invalid is that you state super metroid takes place after prime lol. there are scan records in prime stating the planet zebes was already destroyed.(which happens at the end of super)

    i don't know where you got the idea that prime was before m or any other metroid for that matter



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    Post by BDB on 12/8/2013, 1:26 pm

    @5h0ck wrote:....the prime games are after m you can't count them in this argument, m is a preview in between super metroid and zero mission

    her first encounter was on metroid one nes, the next game is 2 return of samus for the gameboy but ridley isn't in that game. then comes super metroid snes. thats the 2nd encounter, next is m,  thats where she fights the clone zero mission is after that the prime games are way after m.(though i have no idea when hunters for ds takes place its just kinda out there....good multiplayer though)

    what makes your argument even more invalid is that you state super metroid takes place after prime lol. there are scan records in prime stating the planet zebes was already destroyed.(which happens at the end of super)

    i don't know where you got the idea that prime was before m or any other metroid for that matter
    You really didn't bother doing your research ._.

    http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Metroid_timeline
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    http://metroid.jp/metroid_version2/history/index.html

    Other M takes places in-between Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion; Fusion being the last game in the timeline to date.

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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by 5h0ck on 12/8/2013, 1:33 pm

    @BDB wrote:You really didn't bother doing your research ._.
    dude i've played the games what better research is there.
    theres even a scan you find in prime stating samus had already destroyed zebes.
    how can it possibly take place before super....if zebes was destroyed in super? you can't go back to an already destroyed planet.
    either those wikis are dumb as shit or retro studios fucked up the timeline loooooong before m came in,



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    Post by Rapidfir3Pho3nix on 12/8/2013, 2:18 pm

    I think you're referencing this log, otherwise I have no idea what you're talking about

    Pirate data - Fall of Zebes

    "Log 09.992.3

    Zebes has fallen. All ground personnel are presumed dead, either killed by the Hunter clad in metal or in the subsequent destruction of the underground facilities. Our research frigates Orpheon, Siriacus and Vol Paragom were in orbit at zero hour and managed to retreat. Frigate Orpheon is now docked at Vortex Outpost. Orpheon's cargo appears to have a 100% survival rate: Metroids are healthy but on restricted feeding schedules due to uncertain supply status. We are ready to begin research on the Metroids and other promising life-forms. Security status remains at Code Blue: no signs of pursuit from the Hunter."


    This log is talking about the defeat of the Pirates by the hands of Samus at Zebes the first time. She defeats the Pirate colony on Zebes the first time, the base explodes (Metroid/Zero Fusion), then the events of the Metroid Prime trilogy take place (where you find the log above), then she comes back to Zebes to fight the Pirates again and this time the planet is destroyed (Super Metroid).
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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by 5h0ck on 12/8/2013, 4:03 pm

    ok, my memory of that log was fuck, I fucked up, don goofed.

    however

    in the past games she expected ridley to be there, she prepares herself ahead of time, aware that she could run into him at any moment. after super metroid, she assumed he was dead for good, was 100% unprepared for him in m.

    Additionally, the sight of ridley triggers her ptsd

    http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Posttraumatic_stress_disorder

    when she expects ridley(prime 1-3/super)
    she can phsycologically prepare herself, when she expects it she can overcome her condition caused by him. she thought he was gone for good after the events in super, thus she wasn't mentally prepared for him in m.

    when your unprepared for something it impacts you MUCH more than when its expected. and thats why her reaction....is NOT bullshit.



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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by Rapidfir3Pho3nix on 12/8/2013, 11:19 pm

    @5h0ck wrote:Additionally, the sight of ridley triggers her ptsd


    No PTSD.

    @5h0ck wrote:Additionally, the sight of ridley triggers her ptsd


    No PTSD.

    @5h0ck wrote:Additionally, the sight of ridley triggers her ptsd


    No PTSD. Actually, lemme talk about Samus in this scene right here. Even after Ridley comes out from bum-fuck nowhere and gets all up close and personal, Samus is able to skillfully dodges his attacks and she notices his weakness and IMMEDIATELY takes action. THIS is Samus. She is calculative which shows her high intelligence, she is spontaneous which shows her initiative and resolve and ability to take control of the situation, she is strong, she has willpower, and she is CONFIDENT. THIS is Samus.

    And, yep, she was so totally prepared in all those cases. That is exactly why she stood at the edge of the platform over a giant tube leading down to the underground depths despite knowing that Ridley was right there waiting so he could ambush her. Gee, that really says something about Samus's skill when she knows she is gonna get ambushed and gets ambushed anyway. (If you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic)

    "Alright, well she thought he was dead after Super Metroid."

    Let me tell you exactly why this argument is completely invalid. If she did not think he was dead any of the times before, then she would have stayed and made sure he was fucking dead. This is exactly why she sets the Pirate Mothership to detonate, this is exactly why she doesn't jump off the cliff to chase him after the chozo lazers blast open his chest and he falls down and explodes, this is exactly the reason why she prys open his mouth and blasts his insides to smithereens while falling down a bottomless shaft, and, yes, this is exactly why she didn't stay around to check the debris of the planet after Zebes blew up; because each and every time she thought he was fucking dead each time she fucking killed him.
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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by Granadico on 12/9/2013, 12:31 am

    For anyone looking to buy a Wii U or some games there's a buncha sales going on:
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    Re: Wii U Topic

    Post by BDB on 12/9/2013, 1:20 am

    Of course most of these deals are US only :c
    I've actually managed to sell a bunch of crap I don't use, and my bro and I are gonna put money together to buy one. Hopefully before the end of the year.

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